Comments on Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplaceTypePad2011-02-28T21:53:52ZRick Garnetthttps://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/mirrorofjustice/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/mirrorofjustice/2011/02/catholics-v-protestants-on-regulating-the-workplace/comments/atom.xml/N.D. commented on 'Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplace'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d834515a9a69e2017d3bf9c7b1970c2012-09-11T17:25:02Z2012-09-18T15:45:22ZN.D.Since it is true that everything that exists in Time and Space exists in relationship, I second the notion of...<p>Since it is true that everything that exists in Time and Space exists in relationship, I second the notion of rental elf, making it three.</p>matt muggeridge commented on 'Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplace'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d834515a9a69e2014e867227f2970d2011-03-02T19:38:18Z2011-03-02T19:38:18Zmatt muggeridgeThis article suggests some interesting lines of thought. For example, is the civil rights movement, civil disobedience, and the cause...<p>This article suggests some interesting lines of thought. For example, is the civil rights movement, civil disobedience, and the cause of anti-discrimination in general, inspired by "Protestant" individualism? By contrast, given its ecclesiology, is Catholicism more comfortable with personal submission and incorporation into the body, the greater authority, e.g. the union, the state. Might Catholics not even be constitutionally suspicious of the individualism which underpins the drive for anti-discrimination laws? Could be true. Worth thinking about.</p>
<p>Nevertheless the article itself is, in my opinion, so flawed that any line of thought suggested is in spite of the author's arguments rather than because of them. Perhaps given more space the author could have made his points clearer. But if lack of space was his problem, he has compromised the credibility of his argument with sweeping legal, historical and theological assertions that simply can't be supported. And if they can't be supported in the space allotted, to make them is to mislead.</p>
<p>1. He does not make the obvious distinction between public and private sector unionism. 2. The author suggests that the U.S. labor movement's inspiration was Catholic because its membership has largely been so throughout the 20th century. As for Senator Wagner's conversion to Catholicism -- it's interesting, but a complete red herring. 3. The Last Judgment as an individual thing is not uniquely Protestant. If anything, the doctrine of pre-destination of the elect would seem to rely more on the communitarian notion than the Catholic idea that the Blessed Virgin Mary and the saints might put in a good word for me when i go before the throne. Dies Irae, anyone? 4. Positions or statements from individual bishops or the US Conference are, unfortunately, not good indicators of traditional Catholic teaching, above all when they deal with politics and economics. It's debatable what exactly these pronouncements are. I always have a hard time explaining this to my Protestant acquaintance. 5. The author makes no mention of Rerum Novarum, which is of course a bona fide Catholic teaching. He would find there a template for labor unions quite unlike anything we see in U.S. labor law or labor organizations. 6. That a majority of U.S. religious citizens is Protestant is irrelevant. Weren't Protestants an even greater majority during the New Deal when the NLRA gave birth to U.S. labor law?</p>
<p>Apologies for posting at such length. I do so because I believe the commonly and uncritically held notion that Catholicism and the labor movement are somehow linked in inspiration and history, is simplistic and flawed. </p>SF commented on 'Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplace'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d834515a9a69e2014e5f9117e8970c2011-03-01T17:43:40Z2011-03-01T17:43:40ZSFhttp://www.elitelawyerproject.com/blogInteresting article, I never looked at labor law as being more Catholic but by creating associations of workers and often...<p>Interesting article, I never looked at labor law as being more Catholic but by creating associations of workers and often using slight coercion it makes more sense to me. Thank you for the article</p>Marc DeGirolami commented on 'Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplace'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d834515a9a69e20147e2eb51c9970b2011-03-01T15:37:34Z2011-03-01T15:37:34ZMarc DeGirolamiI agree with rental elf.<p>I agree with rental elf.</p>rental elf commented on 'Catholics v. Protestants on regulating the workplace'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d834515a9a69e20147e2eaaab4970b2011-03-01T13:17:16Z2011-03-01T13:17:16Zrental elfhttp://rentalmobil911.webs.comNice article, thanks for the information.<p>Nice article, thanks for the information.</p>