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Thursday, January 27, 2011
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It's a good thing to be reminded of every once in a while.
Posted by: Andrew MacKie-Mason | Jan 28, 2011 1:00:41 AM
Posted by: Chris Lund | Jan 28, 2011 9:45:26 AM
So when Republicans use religious imagery it is wrong, but if Democrats do it then it is clever? Btw, Jesus was not a socialist, he wasn't even a pacifist, and he didn't support Obamacare which will inevitable use tax money for abortions.
Posted by: Fr. J | Jan 28, 2011 11:04:10 AM
Even as a republican, it is a very good reminder.
Posted by: anon | Jan 29, 2011 8:52:26 AM
If Obama wants to give away free healthcare that would be great. Unfortunately he wants to do it with everyone else's money.
Posted by: J | Jan 31, 2011 12:41:30 PM
Republicans and Democrats should not use religious imagery to advance their political agendas since neither of them is truly in alignment with the teachings of Christ. Jesus was indeed a pacifist when he said that "those who live by the sword shall die by the sword." I don't know about you, but I don't think that Jesus would ever pick up a weapon to hurt another human being, and as seen in the Gospel according to Matthew (26:52), Jesus wouldn't even resort to violence in the defense of his own life! I'm sure that Jesus would never support a healthcare reform that funded abortions, but he would support one that provided free healthcare for everyone that needed it.
Many complain that this new healthcare would have to be paid for by everyone else's money. Have you ever heard of the Mystical Body of Christ? This is how we are all connected through Christ's love. If one part suffers, the others inevitably do so as well. We are our brother's keeper and it is important for us to care for one another's well-being. I recommend reading up on the Catholic Social Teachings, they are the Church's best kept secret. Over 100 years of doctrine on how we should care for and treat the least of our brothers and sisters. Maybe Jesus wasn't a socialist, but he did advocate for social justice.
Better yet, read the Last Judgement/ The Sheep and the Goats story in the Gospel according to Matthew.
Peace and blessings my brothers and sisters.
Posted by: Jimmy L. | Feb 1, 2011 10:29:48 AM
I know that Jesus did not condone violence. I know that by the way he died and forgave his murderers and did not ask his people to rise up agains the oppressive invading rulers, despite the fact that the messiah was thought to be someone who would liberate his people from the oppressors. It turns out, God sees oppression as more personal than even an occupier in HIS land. How 'bout that.
As for funding abortions, have you read the bill? It funds clinics that may or may not provide abortions, but it does not specifically fund that procedure. And before you scream, let me tell you my story: I was at my first appointment with an oncologist when I realized in my heart that I was pregnant. I had no idea that I might have had cancer, just that I had not been well for months. In the docs office during that first visit, I knew. I was told that I could not have treatment if I were pregnant. I might not survive if I did not have treatment. I had three days to decide if I would keep the baby or not, before the abortion becomes medical and not a pill. Every second that passed, my baby grew more and more in God's image. My husband was leading a mission trip and I had no way to talk to him. He did not know what I was going through. I had three children at home, one whom I was still nursing, who would grow up without a mother. What would you choose? I did what I though was best for everyone.
I live with pain that you cannot imagine. But it is a pain that I carry on behalf of my children. They have no idea. They have a mother, though, an advocate in life who keeps them safe and healthy. Through this pain I have come to know a God whose grace and forgiveness are infinate. I have come to carry His cross, too, because I share in the pain of having sacrificed my child for the benefit of all of my children. That is harsh. Would you have taken my life with your anti-abortion laws? Would you have had my children grow up without a mother? Would you have brought a new baby into the world in this situation? What would you have done?
Posted by: corinne | Feb 1, 2011 11:04:56 AM
Corinne, I have had cancer myself. There is an old saying that hard cases make bad law. We teach that it is never right to do evil that good may come of it. The rubber meets the road in hard cases. In your case there are certainly mitigating factors, but that does not mean that you acted rightly. In fact your pain is an acknowledgment of that fact. We cannot condone direct abortions. I would urge you too visit http://www.rachelsvineyard.org/. Also to go to the sacrament of penance. I sympathize with your plight, but cannot agree with abortion.
Posted by: Fr. J | Feb 1, 2011 6:15:16 PM
We should want to help anyone who is in pain. Think about being in severe pain. Do you like it? Would you want someone elso to be in pain? We should all want to prevent pain and suffering or if we are selfish then Karma will prevail. If there is one thing that is most important for tax payer dollars it is healthcare and would be worth every penny.
Posted by: lynn | Feb 9, 2011 11:02:34 AM
It is better to say you dont want to pay for healthcare for self interest reasons than to use abortion as a reason. Those who are against healthcare wouldn't want to pay for that child either, to live, with all of the expense.
Posted by: lynn | Feb 9, 2011 11:06:50 AM
lynn, I don't want my tax money to be used to murder unborn children. That isn't healthcare. Catholicism does not believe in "karma" btw.
Posted by: Fr. J | Feb 9, 2011 1:11:43 PM
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